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Old Sep 14, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09   #21
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You want PvE weapons, come over to PvE and do some real work for them instead of getting them handed to you on a silver platter by doing PvP.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 07:29 AM // 07:29   #22
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Someone deleted my post so i'll retype it again -

UAX to PvP. Let selfish and greedy PvErs cry.

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and do some real work
PvPers dont play games to work. We play games to fun.

If PvErs play games to grind and work, sure, I'm all for more grind to you. But leave PvP out of this. UAX to PvP.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 08:54 AM // 08:54   #23
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He didn't meant 'wok' he meant 'effort'.

You can get any weapon with the item creation panel in PvP.
If you want PvP weapons you MUST get tournament points. They are the reward for tournaments. Want PvP weapons? Enter tournaents or bet in the tournament house. Period.

Wanting PvP weapons just for balthazar faction would be like pretending to get endagame green items for killing some mobs.
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01   #24
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No, he meant what he said: *work*. Because that's what it is. If he didn't want people to work for it, he would've agreed with getting skins while having fun. You know, the way games were before no-lifers discovered them and started using them as a replacement for life. Ever played Commodore=64 for instance?
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14   #25
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He didn't meant 'wok' he meant 'effort'.

You can get any weapon with the item creation panel in PvP.
If you want PvP weapons you MUST get tournament points. They are the reward for tournaments. Want PvP weapons? Enter tournaents or bet in the tournament house. Period.

Wanting PvP weapons just for balthazar faction would be like pretending to get endagame green items for killing some mobs.
I seriously wonder if you honestly believe that. There are so few people who really get enough reward points because their distribution is so slow. Automated Tournaments are also a 3 hour thing and honestly, the system in place is not very good. I don't know if you appreciate how much time one must spend playing to actually get a reasonable Faction cap in this game. Mine is currently 65k, which is rank 10 Hero, rank 3 Champion, and rank 1 Gladiator. That's around 150~ wins vs. teams ranked 1200+, 9k fame, and 30 orso TA/RA streaks.

I would argue that those take far longer than it takes to grind out on Duncan to get a good drop from his chest, to complete DoA several hundred times, or to finish all three campaigns, plus the eye of the north expansion, with 10 different characters.

Giving really high-end skins such as Crystallines for a cap of 75k is sufficient in that people must have played a lot for such a reward, even though the reward is purely cosmetic. So no, it's not a matter of grinding out on endgame mobs at all.

And one must also remember that PvP is more difficult than PvE by a long, long way, by the very nature of it.
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